Oregon and Colorado basketball...
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Was just flipping through the channels late last night and stopped and watched the Oregon-Colorado game for a bit. Colorado and Turge's old pal Tad Boyle won going away late in Boulder. Boyle has a nice mix of returning talent and one of the top five-star freshmen in the country in Cody Williams.
Boyle's roster is still built the usual way coaches have always done it. Bring in a solid freshman class but only relying on one or two of them to actually play while returning a solid nucleus of multi-year starters that have been in the program for 3 or 4 years with an impact transfer in former TCU big man Eddie Lampkin.
Then you've got Oregon. This is the new-school way of creating a competitive roster. They have five-star freshman Kwame Evans Jr. who they paid seven figures for. They have South Carolina transfer Jermaine Couisnard, who they outbid Maryland and others for a couple of offseasons ago. In all, something like 5 or 6 of those in their regular rotation began their college careers elsewhere. And then there is five-star frosh Jackson Shelstad, who is from Oregon and perhaps the team's best player and probably is their best NBA prospect.
So what's my point here?
Well, my first point is that I'm not convinced even in this new age of the transfer portal and guys essentially being free agents that the old-school way of constructing a roster isn't still the best way to win. Boyle's roster pretty much looks like any other top-25ish roster you would see over the years. With a bunch of returning starters, an instant impact five-star freshman and some guys already in the program who continue to improve and some highly regarded freshmen who have time to acclimate to the college level. Colorado has one of the top freshman big men in the country on the roster in Assane Diop but he's only played in a handful of games this season. He was a four-star kid in the Rivals150 but Boyle brought in Lampkin from TCU to play the bulk of the minutes inside, allowing his freshman to come along slowly. There are still plenty of teams building rosters the way they always have and Colorado this year is a prime example of doing just that and proving you can still win games.
My second point is that if you are not a great GM/roster manager, you need to be like Oregon at the bare minimum to be competitive today. What do I mean by that? You need to be bringing in multiple multi-year D1 starters (or P5 backups with significant PT and stats) to fill out your roster at a minimum. Even if they are going to be guys coming off the bench. Georgia transfer Kario Oquendo has been a really nice piece for the Ducks coming off the bench. He's a guy who maybe didn't have efficient numbers at his last school, but part of that was simply the coaching and talent around him. A former multi-year SEC starter, he's thriving in a new environment coming off the bench. Even their backup center was a four-year D1 starter before coming to Oregon.
I guess my point in all of this is to say that no coach should be expecting starter minutes or production from a freshman outside of anyone in maybe the top 20. Of course, there are exceptions, but that is usually a kid who's been committed for a long time who's skillset fits a specific need for an otherwise pretty talented and experienced team. This is why in the offseason I said I thought Kaiser might end up having the biggest impact this season for the Terps. I saw his size, defense and shooting all as priority needs. But even then, I told you guys I saw him as a 15-20 minute per game guy.
The biggest issue with Maryland's roster, IMO, was expecting anything from a guy like Traore. And if you didn't expect anything from him, why take him? In this day and age of the portal, what is the value in helping develop a kid unless you are sure he is a future starter? Then there is the predicament of having two guys on scholarship that you basically have no idea what they are in Chance Stephens and Braden Pierce. A lot of tough decisions that need to be made by a lot of folks this offseason.
Boyle's roster is still built the usual way coaches have always done it. Bring in a solid freshman class but only relying on one or two of them to actually play while returning a solid nucleus of multi-year starters that have been in the program for 3 or 4 years with an impact transfer in former TCU big man Eddie Lampkin.
Then you've got Oregon. This is the new-school way of creating a competitive roster. They have five-star freshman Kwame Evans Jr. who they paid seven figures for. They have South Carolina transfer Jermaine Couisnard, who they outbid Maryland and others for a couple of offseasons ago. In all, something like 5 or 6 of those in their regular rotation began their college careers elsewhere. And then there is five-star frosh Jackson Shelstad, who is from Oregon and perhaps the team's best player and probably is their best NBA prospect.
So what's my point here?
Well, my first point is that I'm not convinced even in this new age of the transfer portal and guys essentially being free agents that the old-school way of constructing a roster isn't still the best way to win. Boyle's roster pretty much looks like any other top-25ish roster you would see over the years. With a bunch of returning starters, an instant impact five-star freshman and some guys already in the program who continue to improve and some highly regarded freshmen who have time to acclimate to the college level. Colorado has one of the top freshman big men in the country on the roster in Assane Diop but he's only played in a handful of games this season. He was a four-star kid in the Rivals150 but Boyle brought in Lampkin from TCU to play the bulk of the minutes inside, allowing his freshman to come along slowly. There are still plenty of teams building rosters the way they always have and Colorado this year is a prime example of doing just that and proving you can still win games.
My second point is that if you are not a great GM/roster manager, you need to be like Oregon at the bare minimum to be competitive today. What do I mean by that? You need to be bringing in multiple multi-year D1 starters (or P5 backups with significant PT and stats) to fill out your roster at a minimum. Even if they are going to be guys coming off the bench. Georgia transfer Kario Oquendo has been a really nice piece for the Ducks coming off the bench. He's a guy who maybe didn't have efficient numbers at his last school, but part of that was simply the coaching and talent around him. A former multi-year SEC starter, he's thriving in a new environment coming off the bench. Even their backup center was a four-year D1 starter before coming to Oregon.
I guess my point in all of this is to say that no coach should be expecting starter minutes or production from a freshman outside of anyone in maybe the top 20. Of course, there are exceptions, but that is usually a kid who's been committed for a long time who's skillset fits a specific need for an otherwise pretty talented and experienced team. This is why in the offseason I said I thought Kaiser might end up having the biggest impact this season for the Terps. I saw his size, defense and shooting all as priority needs. But even then, I told you guys I saw him as a 15-20 minute per game guy.
The biggest issue with Maryland's roster, IMO, was expecting anything from a guy like Traore. And if you didn't expect anything from him, why take him? In this day and age of the portal, what is the value in helping develop a kid unless you are sure he is a future starter? Then there is the predicament of having two guys on scholarship that you basically have no idea what they are in Chance Stephens and Braden Pierce. A lot of tough decisions that need to be made by a lot of folks this offseason.